____________________________________________________________________________ 14431. Arah E. Turner, Vernon, Ala. Rejected. Ancestors not on rolls. Does not establish genuine connection with Cherokee tribe. See misc. test page 478. Misc. Test P. 478. No. 14431-14429 Arah E. Turner: My name is Arah E. Turner and I reside at Vernon, Lamar Co., Ala. I was born in Calhoun Co., Ga. in 1850. I claim relationship to the Cherokee Indians through my mother, Elizabeth Didanie (sp) Morris, whose maiden name was Trout, who was a quarter Cherokee Indian. My mother claims through her father James Trout who was a half Cherokee Indian. My mother was born in Calhoun Co., Ga. about 1818 where she lived for thirty-seven years or about 1855, when we moved into Alabama, and we have lived here in Alabama ever since. As it appears above I am mistaken in saying that I claim through James Trout. I should have said through my grandmother the wife of James Trout whose name was Annie Trout maiden name Annie Hopper and she was one-half Cherokee Indian. I remember both my mother and grandmother and they showed the Indian plainly. I remember the Indians visiting us but I cannot say with certainty whether we were ever recognized by the tribe or my grandparents. I do not remember and I never heard of my family ever receiving money from the Government or being enrolled as Indians. I do not know whether my grandmother Annie Hopper ever had any brothers or sisters. I have heard my father and mother say that my grandmother Annie Hopper was a Cherokee Indian. I have heard my father and mother say that the Indians who passed by our home were Cherokee Indians. I never heard of Creek Indians. I have heard of Chickasaw Indians but never saw any in our neighborhood. I never heard of any Choctaw Indians. A.E. Turner Winfield, Ala. July 1, 1908 ____________________________________________________________________________ Exception Case 14431. A.E. Turner, Vernon, Ala. Rejected. Total number of exceptions filed in this group - 28. A large number of applications have been filed where claim is made through one Anne Trout nee Hopper who was the grandmother of applicant No. 14431 born in 1850 who had several brothers and sisters born prior to that time. This applicant was the daughter of John Morris and Didanie (sp) Morris nee Trout. Neither this applicant nor her brothers and sisters living at that time were enrolled in 1851 nor was her mother or grandmother through whom claim is made enrolled in 1835, nor were any members of the family enrolled on the later Eastern Cherokee rolls. In the affidavits filed in support of the exceptions for the first time claim is made that the great-grandfather of the claimant, that is, the father of the said Annie Hopper Trout was one Ash Hopper, and the exceptions specifically state just where Ash Hopper was living, giving the state, county and even the river, "Pea Vine Creek", upon which he was residing in 1836. Not only was no mention made of Ash Hopper in any of the original applications but in the testimony of this applicant taken in July 1908 no mention whatever is made of Ash Hopper. Furthermore, in the original applications the statement is made that the claimant's grandmother was born in Gordon County, Ga. and that the mother continued to live in Gordon Co., in 1851, but now the important detail is given that Ash Hopper the great-grandfather and the grandmother Annie were living in Walker Co., Ga. in 1835 and that the grandmother was born in Walker County. While the claim is now made that Ash Hopper was the father of Annie Hopper Trout this seems highly improbable as Ash Hopper was evidently one compound Indian name and not the family name of Hopper with the given name of Ash. On the original Indian Office Index of the Roll of 1835 the name of Ash Hopper appears only under the letter "A" and not under "H". Moreover, this is further emphasized by the fact that on the roll of 1835 Ash Hopper's family consisted of four, all of whom were enrolled as full-bloods, while all the claimants assert that their grandmother was only a half-blood. But as already stated the grandmother who was a woman of middle age and married and had a family was not enrolled in 1835 herself, so that the immediate ancestor was not enrolled. The original recommendations that these cases be rejected is therefore renewed. ____________________________________________________________________________ Cherokee By Blood, Records of Eastern Cherokee Ancestry in the U.S. Court of Claims 1906-1910, Volume 6, Applications 13261 to 16745, Jerry Wright Jordan, pages 159-160. ____________________________________________________________________________ David Kelley 1997