Eastern Cherokees Application

Arah E. Turner

14431. Arah E. Turner, Vernon, Ala. Rejected. Ancestors not on rolls. Does   
not establish genuine connection with Cherokee tribe. See misc. test page    
Misc. Test P. 478. No. 14431-14429 Arah E. Turner: My name is Arah E.        
Turner and I reside at Vernon, Lamar Co., Ala. I was born in Calhoun Co.,    
Ga. in 1850. I claim relationship to the Cherokee Indians through my mother, 
Elizabeth Didanie (sp) Morris, whose maiden name was Trout, who was a        
quarter Cherokee Indian. My mother claims through her father James Trout who 
was a half Cherokee Indian. My mother was born in Calhoun Co., Ga. about     
1818 where she lived for thirty-seven years or about 1855, when we moved     
into Alabama, and we have lived here in Alabama ever since. As it appears 
above I am mistaken in saying that I claim through James Trout. I should     
have said through my grandmother the wife of James Trout whose name was      
Annie Trout maiden name Annie Hopper and she was one-half Cherokee Indian.   
I remember both my mother and grandmother and they showed the Indian         
plainly. I remember the Indians visiting us but I cannot say with certainty  
whether we were ever recognized by the tribe or my grandparents. I do not    
remember and I never heard of my family ever receiving money from the        
Government or being enrolled as Indians. I do not know whether my            
grandmother Annie Hopper ever had any brothers or sisters. I have heard my   
father and mother say that my grandmother Annie Hopper was a Cherokee        
Indian. I have heard my father and mother say that the Indians who passed    
by our home were Cherokee Indians. I never heard of Creek Indians. I have    
heard of Chickasaw Indians but never saw any in our neighborhood. I never 
heard of any Choctaw Indians.                                                
                               A.E. Turner                                   
                              Winfield, Ala.                                 
                              July 1, 1908                                   
Exception Case 14431. A.E. Turner, Vernon, Ala. Rejected. Total number of    
exceptions filed in this group - 28. A large number of applications have     
been filed where claim is made through one Anne Trout nee Hopper who was     
the grandmother of applicant No. 14431 born in 1850 who had several brothers 
and sisters born prior to that time. This applicant was the daughter of John 
Morris and Didanie (sp) Morris nee Trout. Neither this applicant nor her  
brothers and sisters living at that time were enrolled in 1851 nor was her   
mother or grandmother through whom claim is made enrolled in 1835, nor were  
any members of the family enrolled on the later Eastern Cherokee rolls. In   
the affidavits filed in support of the exceptions for the first time claim   
is made that the great-grandfather of the claimant, that is, the father of   
the said Annie Hopper Trout was one Ash Hopper, and the exceptions           
specifically state just where Ash Hopper was living, giving the state,       
county and even the river, "Pea Vine Creek", upon which he was residing in   
1836. Not only was no mention made of Ash Hopper in any of the original      
applications but in the testimony of this applicant taken in July 1908 no    
mention whatever is made of Ash Hopper. Furthermore, in the original         
applications the statement is made that the claimant's grandmother was born  
in Gordon County, Ga. and that the mother continued to live in Gordon Co.,
in 1851, but now the important detail is given that Ash Hopper the           
great-grandfather and the grandmother Annie were living in Walker Co., Ga.   
in 1835 and that the grandmother was born in Walker County. While the claim  
is now made that Ash Hopper was the father of Annie Hopper Trout this seems  
highly improbable as Ash Hopper was evidently one compound Indian name and   
not the family name of Hopper with the given name of Ash. On the original    
Indian Office Index of the Roll of 1835 the name of Ash Hopper appears only  
under the letter "A" and not under "H". Moreover, this is further emphasized 
by the fact that on the roll of 1835 Ash Hopper's family consisted of four,  
all of whom were enrolled as full-bloods, while all the claimants assert     
that their grandmother was only a half-blood. But as already stated the      
grandmother who was a woman of middle age and married and had a family was   
not enrolled in 1835 herself, so that the immediate ancestor was not      
enrolled. The original recommendations that these cases be rejected is       
therefore renewed.                                                           
Cherokee By Blood, Records of Eastern Cherokee Ancestry in the U.S. Court    
of Claims 1906-1910, Volume 6, Applications 13261 to 16745, Jerry Wright     
Jordan, pages 159-160.                                                       
David Kelley 1997